Senator RONALDSON (Victoria—Minister for Veterans' Affairs, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Centenary of ANZAC and Special Minister of State) (14:40): I thank Senator Bernardi for his question and acknowledge his longstanding interest in veterans' affairs. I say it is nice to have a question about the budget—so far, no good from the Labor Party in relation to this. They have lost interest, and I wonder why. Zig and Zag aren't here. I was waiting for a question. I did not get one yesterday and I am pleased to have one today. The PRESIDENT: Senator Ronaldson, just answer the question. Senator RONALDSON: The Abbott government is very proudly putting $12 billion into veterans' affairs in the 2014-15 budget—$6.5 billion in pensions and income support and $5.4 million in health services. This is $12 billion, and this figure is very important because, if you look at the quantum of that figure, that is the same quantum of Labor's legacy of debt—$12,000 million is the same amount we are spending on veterans' affairs. This is the magnitude of the legacy that has been left those opposite. I want to go through some of the budget commitments today for Senator Bernardi. We are delivering of course on our DFRB/DFRDB indexation commitment opposed by those opposite for three long years—delivered in full. We are putting $1 million back into advocacy funding—again, ripped out from those advocacy services providing services to veterans all over this nation, the length and breadth of this nation, by the former minister. We are expanding mental health services for veterans. We are recognising— (Time expired)