Senator RONALDSON (Victoria—Minister for Veterans' Affairs, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Centenary of ANZAC and Special Minister of State) (15:23): I thank the honourable senator for his question. As Senator Conroy will be aware, the cost imposition for manufacturing in Australia for Toyota is about $3,200 per unit. We have made quite clear all the way through that there is $1 billion of taxpayers' funds going into the automotive sector until 2015 and there will be a further $1,000 million of taxpayers' funds available to the automotive sector after 2015. The government is working closely with Toyota. I do not expect Senator Conroy to be aware of this, and I do not mean that in a negative sense. Senator Kim Carr: He's more aware of it than you are! The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator RONALDSON: You really are an extraordinary man! In relation to Senator Conroy— (Time expired) Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! When there is silence, I will give you the call, Senator Conroy. Senators on my left and right!