Senator FIERRAVANTI-WELLS (New South Wales) (14:59): Mr President, I ask a supplementary question. After ripping $1.6 billion out of the aged-care funding instrument, why is the government now pushing ahead with forcing a third of the aged-care workforce onto EBAs? Why is the government tying aged-care funding to an industrial process? Is this not just a backdoor way of forcing more aged-care workers into unions and especially refinancing the Health Services Union? Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! If you wish to debate it, debate it after question time.