Senator JOYCE (Queensland—Leader of The Nationals in the Senate) (14:15): My question is to the Minister for Foreign Affairs, Senator Carr. I remind the minister that Australia has had a policy since 1948 through the governments of Chifley, Menzies, Holt, McEwen, Gorton, McMahon, Whitlam, Fraser, Hawke, Keating and Rudd to support the secure borders of an Israeli state. Senator Chris Evans: What happened to John Howard? You've forgotten him already? Senator JOYCE: Do you categorically and unambiguously support the— Senator Cameron: Johnny who? The PRESIDENT: Order on my right! Just wait, Senator Joyce. When there is silence, we will proceed. Senator Joyce, continue. Senator JOYCE: Do you, Minister, categorically and unambiguously support the secure borders of Israel?