Senator CHRIS EVANS (Western Australia—Minister for Tertiary Education, Skills, Science and Research and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:01): Mr President, Senator Abetz is just full of rhetoric. There is no substance to his question. There is no interest in the big policy questions of the day. This is an opposition who have no relevance to anyone. They have nothing to say about the big policy questions facing Australia and here they are asking a question about the second anniversary. I thought they asserted that yesterday. Government sena t ors interjecting— Senator CHRIS EVANS: They cannot even get the date right, apparently. Not only can't the tactics committee come up with a sensible question but the best they can do is convince themselves: as they all sat around they said, 'This is brilliant question. This is a real killer. Everyone's going to love all that political rhetoric.' Well, I don't know; I haven't met anyone on the street or at the footy or at my kids' sport who is interested in that nonsense. They are not interested in that. Honourable sena t ors interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Evans, resume your seat. Order on both sides! Senator CHRIS EVANS: I could equally talk about how it is one year since the shadow finance minister made clear that there was a $70 billion black hole in the Liberal Party's costings. One year ago, and apparently it is the anniversary. Happy anniversary! But I suspect those listening would say, 'What's that got to do with anything? It's just like Senator Abetz's question.' They want to know what is happening with the NDIS, they want to know what is happening with the cost of living, they want to know what is happening with their health and they want to know what is happening with the education services that the Commonwealth provides. Senator Cormann: That is pretty brazen. That is pretty arrogant. What is the Prime Minister doing? Senator CHRIS EVANS: Senator, we have had a lot of arrogance from you guys in the last two days. Mr President, the opposition would be better served by focusing on policy on how we meet the great challenges that Australia faces, rather than by convincing themselves they sound brilliant with that really shallow rhetoric.