Ms GILLARD (Lalor—Prime Minister) (14:15): The Leader of the Opposition, who is obviously desperately casting around to create some drama here, would well know that from the day we announced carbon pricing we were very clear about the impact on electricity prices for families. The Leader of the Opposition then ran around the country and said, 'Oh, it won't be 10 per cent, it will be 20. It will be unimaginable. You just wait and see.' And of course the jury is in now and it is 10 per cent, which means the majority of Australian households will come out of carbon pricing either square or in front. The Leader of the Opposition well knows that these are the designs of a carbon-pricing scheme, because he sat in a federal cabinet when one was being designed— The DEPUTY SPEAKER: The Prime Minister will resume her seat. The Manager of Opposition Business has a point of order. If it was about relevance I was about to ask the Prime Minister to return to the question. Mr Pyne: All right. The DEPUTY SPEAKER: The Prime Minister was asked about the reduction in emissions. I am going to ask her to return to that part of the question. Ms GILLARD: When the Leader of the Opposition was sitting in the Howard cabinet designing a price on carbon, he too would have known that it is the most efficient way of reducing carbon pollution. And because of the carbon pricing scheme we will reach our target. Mr PYNE: You have asked the Prime Minister three times to come to the question and she still has not talked about the rise in emissions by eight per cent. The DEPUTY SPEAKER: The Prime Minister will be relevant to the question before the chair. Ms GILLARD: Because of our carbon pricing policy our nation will hit our target of reducing carbon emissions by five per cent by 2020.