Senator LUNDY (Australian Capital Territory—Minister Assisting for Industry and Innovation, Minister for Multicultural Affairs and Minister for Sport) (14:31): The government fundamentally disagrees with the position of the Greens. We do not believe it is workable and we believe that offshore processing does, by necessity, need to be a part of the whole solution in providing a disincentive for boats to come across the water and, as we have seen in recent times, tragically for lives to be lost. With regard to the question I have been asked— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on both sides! Senator Milne is entitled to hear the answer. Senator LUNDY: In regard to the question Senator Milne asked, I am certainly happy to refer those specifics to the minister but it is difficult to answer that question knowing that the Greens do not support offshore processing and a holistic approach, a regional framework to manage people movements in this area with the overriding concern for their safety and the need to create a disincentive for people to use boats to try to come to Australia. (Time expired)