Senator BOB CARR (New South Wales—Minister for Foreign Affairs) (14:13): On 14 June over 310,000 members of the veteran community received an initial payment, the clean energy advance, to help meet household costs which en the carbon price starts on 1 July. This payment, part of the Household Assistance Package, is an upfront lump sum amount to last until ongoing assistance, the clean energy supplement, commences between March 2013 and January 2014. All Veterans' Affairs pension recipients are eligible for clean energy payments. The children of veterans and members who receive fortnightly educational allowances are also eligible for clean energy payments. Disability pensions, including— Senator Ronaldson: On a point of order, Mr President: he is not referring to DFRDB recipients. If the minister is saying that DFRDB recipients will be getting a payment, can he please tell the chamber now and I will spread the word for him. The PRESIDENT: Order! That is an argument. The minister is answering the question. The minister might not be answering the question in the manner desired by the questioner. I draw the minister's attention to the question. Senator BOB CARR: Service pensioners received a lump sum of $250 for singles and $190 for each eligible member of a couple. War widows and widowers received a lump sum of $250. This is comprehensive household assistance— (Time expired)