Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Finance and Deregulation) (14:31): I think the question on debt is the same question I was first asked, as I recall it, by the Leader of the Opposition in the Senate, Senator Abetz. I answered that in detail with reference to the advice of the Australian Office of Financial Management. In fact, I suggested to Senator Abetz that he take the opportunity to speak to Senator Bushby, who sits behind him, because he might be able to explain it to him in more detail. I make this point: if those opposite care so much about a surplus, why will they not front up with their savings? Of course you do not want to know about this, do you, George? Senator Brandis: I raise a point of order on direct relevance, Mr President. As the minister rightly observes, this question is substantially the same as a question that Senator Abetz asked Senator Wong. I have given her the opportunity to answer to me what she failed to answer to him. Nothing she has said so far bears even remotely on the question, let alone being directly relevant to it. Why is the government increasing the debt limit by $50 billion? The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I cannot instruct the minister how to answer the question. It might not be answered in the form or the way you would prefer and you might not be given the answer you would particularly like. But I understood from the minister's answer that she was responding to the question you asked. Senator WONG: I refer the senator to the transcript of my earlier answers in which I outlined in quite a lot of detail, I thought, the advice of the Australian Office of Financial Management and the reasons for the increase in the legislated debt cap. I think I have answered that quite fulsomely.