Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Finance and Deregulation) (14:47): Here we have Senator Joyce coming into this chamber saying he knows better than the Australian Office of Financial Management. He has this tricky little thing he wants us to do and the government of Australia should accept his accounting advice and his advice about how to handle the Commonwealth bond market rather than the advice of the Australian Office of Financial Management. It is not surprising they got you to ask the question! Senator Ian Macdonald interjecting— The PRESIDENT: No, Senator Joyce was on his feet before you, Senator Macdonald. Honourable senators interjecting— Senator Joyce: The next budget nightmare: NBN. The PRESIDENT: Wait a minute, Senator Joyce, you have not been given the call. When the chamber is quiet; Senator Joyce now has the call. Senator Joyce: Mr President, my point of order is on relevance. We are asking a question about section 5 of the Commonwealth Inscribed Stock Act. She is either aware of how it works or unaware of how it works. If she is unaware, she just sits down. If she is aware of how it works, she would realise— The PRESIDENT: Order! You need to refer to people by their correct title. Senator Joyce: Minister Wong. The PRESIDENT: Yes. Keep going. Is that it? Senator Joyce interjecting— The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. The minister has the call. Senator WONG: What is being asserted and it is— Senator Cameron: Did you get an explanation why Tony sacked you? The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Cameron! Senator Heffernan interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Heffernan! Senator Wong has the call. Senator WONG: Insofar as I can understand what Senator Joyce is saying, I believe he is asserting that the government should do something other than what has been advised by the Australian Office of Financial Management when it comes to the government securities market. I think that is what he is suggesting. My answer to him remains that if it comes to a choice between taking his advice about how to handle the government bond market and the advice of the Australian Office of Financial Management, it is unsurprising who the government would choose.