Senator CHRIS EVANS (Western Australia—Minister for Tertiary Education, Skills, Jobs and Workplace Relations and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:12): Those who pose a risk to that clean energy future of course are the opposition and those who continue to oppose taking action. As we know, in 2007 then Prime Minister John Howard committed to putting a price on carbon and to taking strong action. He said it was important that the Liberal Party show leadership. He did not say, as Mr Hockey now claims, that somehow we will wait for the rest of the world to move. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Cormann and Senator Wong, if you want to have a debate, now is not the time; after question time is clearly the time. I need to hear Senator Evans's response. Senator CHRIS EVANS: Mr Howard said we ought to move regardless of what our trading competitors do. He said we ought to provide a model for other nations to follow, that we ought to provide leadership. That is the sort of leadership the Liberal Party used to have. We encourage the Liberal Party to actually get on board and help achieve a clean energy future in Australia, a policy they once supported and unfortunately have now moved away from. (Time expired)