Mr ALBANESE (Grayndler—Prime Minister) (14:14): I note the nature of the question from the member opposite. These changes come in from September. What he's saying is— Mr Wallace interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order! The member for Fisher has asked the question. I can't hear the Prime Minister. Mr ALBANESE: somehow the changes also— Mr Sukkar interjecting— Mr Taylor interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Deakin and the member for Hume: I can't hear what the Prime Minister is saying. Mr ALBANESE: If he had followed the debate he would know that just one-third of the changes come in in September. Then there's a further change in March—I think that's correct—of next year and then a further change six months later on. I myself have met with the Pharmacy Guild, as well as other pharmacists in my own electorate, about these issues. That's why we're continuing to have discussions and why the health minister announced additional support for pharmacies as part of the program. Ms Ley interjecting— The SPEAKER: The acting leader will cease interjecting, please. Mr ALBANESE: It's important to recognise here that this is about making a difference on the cost of living. The idea that you'd deliberately keep costs to consumers high as a conscious strategy is one that, frankly, I believe is indefensible. That's why it was recommended to those opposite in 2018 that that be the case. The fact is that this is about cheaper medicine for six million Australians, and if those opposite want to stand for more-expensive medicines for six million Australians, then let them know that that is the case. Six million Australians—people in cities, people in regions—will all pay for this policy. Yet again undermining the PBS, yet again pushing up the cost of living for millions of Australians—the Liberal Party never miss a chance to try and make Australians pay more for the health care that they need. They never miss a chance. We on this side will always stand up for help with the cost of living, and we'll always be the party of cheaper medicine as well. Dr Freelander: You could do the simple thing and ask the patients what they want! The SPEAKER: The member for Macarthur is warned. Opposition members interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order! There is far too much noise on my left. If that continues, people will be warned. One warning, and then you'll remove yourself under 94(a).