Ms BURNEY (Barton—Minister for Indigenous Australians) (14:56): What we have in this nation is a group of people that are poorer, sicker and more incarcerated and die earlier than anyone else. The Voice and the referendum are about doing things differently to change those things. It is not about individual statements of people that are involved in this. I am not responsible for what other people say, but I'll tell you what I'm responsible for. I'm responsible for what I say and what I do. At every step of the way, I have conducted myself with integrity, I have conducted myself properly, and I have conducted myself with honesty. I have embraced every single person in this parliament if they wished to participate. The working group has provided advice on a number of occasions, including to the Leader of the Opposition and the then shadow minister for Aboriginal affairs on two occasions. Do not use the ridiculous, underhanded notions that you're using— Opposition members interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order! Members on my right. The minister will pause. Mr Burns interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Macnamara will leave the chamber under 94(a) for that statement. I'll hear from the member for Page. Mr Hogan: The point of order is relevance. In the question, there was no reflection on the minister. We hold the minister in high regard. These questions are going to the workings of people on her working group and how this Voice will work, and I ask the minister to be relevant. The SPEAKER: The Leader of the House. Mr Burke: Under precedents from both you and former speakers, when a question that was particularly borderline has been allowed, there has normally been a pretty light-handed attachment to the relevance rule. With Speaker Smith and a number of speakers, when a question could have been in or out, that's been taken into account in the relevance rule. The SPEAKER: The minister is in continuation. I'm going to make sure she's remaining relevant to the question. Ms BURNEY: To finish my answer, can I just say this: if anyone has wanted to have a discussion with me about this issue, I have been available. There is no way that I can see where I haven't conducted myself appropriately and respectfully. At the end of the day, this is about doing things differently so that we can move the dial on a national shame in this country.