Ms BURNEY (Barton—Minister for Indigenous Australians) (14:31): I thank the member for Farrer for her question. I can only repeat what I have already said. The Voice will make recommendations that affect Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people, but the Voice will not run programs, it will not deliver funding and it will not have the power of veto. The Attorney-General was very clear in his second reading speech about specific matters to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander— Mr Wallace interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Fisher is warned. Ms BURNEY: peoples, matters relevant to the Australian community. I repeat that—matters relevant to the Australian community, including general laws and measures that affect Aboriginal and Torres Strait Island people. I am so pleased that the member for Farrer has such a thorough idea of what those things are! I can tell you what the Voice will not be giving advice on. It won't be giving advice on parking tickets. It won't be giving advice on changing Australia Day. It will not be giving advice on all of the ridiculous things that that side has come up with. The SPEAKER: Order! The minister will pause. Mr Pasin interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Barker, I'm trying to hear the Deputy Leader of the Opposition on a point of order. She has the call. Ms Ley: On relevance: it's a yes or no question that goes to a very important question of public policy. If the Minister for Indigenous Australians cannot answer it, she could choose to hand the question— The SPEAKER: Resume your seat. Mr Dreyfus: You don't like the answer! You're pathetic! You shouldn't let them put you up to it. The SPEAKER: The Attorney-General will cease interjecting, and I'll hear from the Leader of the House. Mr Burke: Mr Speaker, I would suggest that every part of that point of order was an abuse of the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The minister will continue. I want to be clear. She's being relevant to the question. The question was about the Voice and what it is able to make representations on. She's giving context, and I just heard her say, 'What it won't do,' so I can't imagine how she could be more relevant to the question. I'm giving her the call, and she'll be heard in silence. Ms BURNEY: I will say this to the parliament: they go lower; we go higher.