Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (15:03): The small-business energy incentive starts on 1 July. That's an initiative of this government, and it will help 3.8 million businesses. I'm not sure if they voted against that one or whether they weren't able to actually vote against it because we were able to implement it. But they might have if they could have, because they vote against pretty much anything. Three point eight million businesses will from 1 July benefit from this incentive. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Wong, please resume your seat. Repeated interjections are disorderly. I'm going to ask you to listen in silence, and I call the minister again. Senator WONG: Businesses with an annual turnover of less $50 million will get an additional 20 per cent tax deduction on spending that supports more efficient use of energy, helping small businesses make investments such as electrifying their heating and cooling systems, upgrading to more efficient fridges and installing batteries and heat pumps. The Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry has praised the incentive, with Mr Willox correctly identifying its benefit as threefold: … a triple dividend by lowering bills, emissions and the pressure on our energy systems as they transition. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Minister. Senator Payman, second supplementary?