Dr CHALMERS (Rankin—Treasurer) (14:56): There's a pattern emerging here. Early in the pack the shadow Treasurer got a question. It didn't go so well, so they gave it to someone else. Now we're on to plan B. I thank plan B for his question. Mr Hamilton interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Groom will leave the chamber. You've been warned. You've had a good go. The member for Groom then left the chamber. The SPEAKER: I call the member for Page on a point of order. Mr Hogan: The point of order is hubris. If it's not a technical point of order, it should be because— The SPEAKER: Resume your seat. I ask the Treasurer to continue with his answer. Dr CHALMERS: The change in the budget that the honourable member is referring to is a change to the passenger movement charge, which hasn't been indexed since I think 2017. Governments from time to time index the passenger movement charge. There's a difference in the budget measure. The payment you make to leave Australia has gone from $60 to $70—a $10 increase, which reflects the indexation since 2017, which seems to me to be a responsible way to go about it. Tourism is obviously a central part of our economy. One of the strengths in our economy is our tourism sector. You can see why—people want to come here. Mr Hogan interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order! The member for Page is on a warning. Dr CHALMERS: Our advice is that a $10 increase to the passenger movement charge—from 60 to 70 bucks, which reflects indexation since 2017—will have no impact on the number of tourists coming here. Those opposite have to decide whether they want more tourists coming here or they want fewer tourists coming here. One of the reasons why the net overseas migration number is a bit high is that more long-time tourists are coming to Australia. The first question that got asked suggested that there are too many tourists coming to Australia. In the first one there were too many tourists coming to Australia. The most recent question suggested that there aren't enough tourists coming to Australia. They have to make their mind up. Tonight the opposition leader gets an opportunity to clean up all of this rubbish—one shadow minister saying one thing and another shadow minister saying another thing. It is his opportunity to get up and say whether or not he supports cost-of-living relief for people. He can do that from the dispatch box at 7.30 pm.