Mr McCORMACK (Riverina—Deputy Prime Minister, Minister for Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Development and Leader of The Nationals) (14:36): I'll get the energy minister to add to my remarks, but I'll answer the question from the Albanese-Marles-Fitzgibbon opposition. The 'big stick' legislation is important legislation. It is very important, because we want to make sure that we have the most reliable and affordable energy for Australians. That's what we've always said and that is certainly what we have put in place. That is why, at last, energy prices are coming down. Under Labor, those opposite couldn't even explain how much the energy costs were going to be for average businesses and average families. The SPEAKER: The Acting Prime Minister will resume his seat. The Manager of Opposition Business, on a point of order? Mr Burke: Yes, and it goes to the issue of direct relevance as to whether someone can simply react to a trigger word or whether they have to deal with the context of the question at all. The context of the question is entirely about whether or not that legislation should apply to supermarkets, and the Acting Prime Minister is going nowhere near that issue. Mr Porter: Mr Speaker, because there is no plan, the Acting Prime Minister is speaking to the only part of the question he can intelligently speak to, which is the 'big stick' legislation in relation to energy. Honourable members interjecting— The SPEAKER: I don't know what it is about a certain group of members that they find the need to interject when both their Manager of Opposition Business and the Leader of the House have made points of order that they are expecting me to rule on. The question was very specific. It didn't contain a preamble. I was about to say to the Acting Prime Minister that he is of course entitled to a preamble on the issue, but I think the scope of a very specific question is very limited in this respect. The other thing I was going to say is that I thought I heard the Acting Prime Minister say that at some point he would refer it to the energy minister. There's a difficulty with that, unless he can convince me that the energy minister is responsible for supermarkets. That's the problem. He can certainly refer it to a minister who has portfolio responsibility for that area, and that, obviously, could be a number of ministers. But I think the Acting Prime Minister has been entitled to deal with the energy policy point up until now—which he has done—but he needs to either go to the specific part of the question or refer it, or we can move on to the next question. Mr McCORMACK: We're taking on the energy companies, and we make no apology for that.