Senator PAYNE (New South Wales—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Minister for Women) (14:42): I have a longstanding professional relationship with Ms Batty, who helped me immeasurably in the development of the Department of Human Services anti-domestic-violence campaign entitled 'Enough' to support both staff and customers of the Department of Human Services; and perpetrators, frankly, who had experienced, who were victims of or survivors of domestic violence. So my respect and regard for Ms Batty is well known and on the record. As the Minister for Women, in the roundtables that I have been holding since I was appointed to this role in May of this year, it has been my practice to ensure that, at any of my discussions around violence and the impact of gender based and family violence on women and children in this country, there are always survivors at the table, because they tell their story better than anyone, and I respect that enormously.