Ms GILLARD (Lalor—Prime Minister) (15:13): I am indebted to the Deputy Leader of the Opposition for giving what I think is a very penetrating critique of why the opposition's polluters subsidy plan is destined for failure, because at the centre of it is bureaucrats trying to pick winners and donating taxpayer funds to companies which may well go bankrupt at the cost of $1,300 per year for Australian families. Ms Julie Bishop: Mr Speaker, a point of order on relevance: the question was about the government's Clean Energy Finance Corporation, which is the program similar to the United States—in fact, they modelled it— The SPEAKER: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition will resume her seat. The Prime Minister is responding, and I will listen carefully to see that she is within the standing orders. Ms GILLARD: I was just going to make the point that, in contrast to the opposition's subsidies for polluters multibillion dollar slush fund, the Clean Energy Finance Corporation will be a body that is at arm's length from government, led by commercial leaders who will be making decisions on a commercial basis. The aim, of course, is to catalyse the development of clean energy in our economy. So we will be relying on the expertise of people from Australia's private sector to work on the Clean Energy Finance Corporation, and of course we will have some things to say about that over time as the Clean Energy Finance Corporation is established. What is truly remarkable about this question, though, is the essence of the opposition's policy is that it believes it can take $1,300 per year from Australian families, put it in a slush fund and then dole it out to polluters, and, yes, that would have the consequences the Deputy Leader of the Opposition predicts. Honourable members interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order! The House will settle down.