The SPEAKER (14:56): The member for Canning will cease interjecting. The minister will ignore the interjections. Mr CREAN: We invite them along— Opposition members interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order! Mr Pyne: Mr Speaker, on a point of order, under standing order 64 how is it in order for the minister to call our members 'you' and yet the Leader of the House takes exception to us calling the Prime Minister 'she'? The SPEAKER: Order! I have encouraged the minister to ignore the interjections, which will get over any other problems that arise. I suggest to those that interject that they cease interjecting. Mr Crean interjecting— The SPEAKER: The minister's enthusiasm is recognised, but he should just settle down. He now has the call. Mr CREAN: As I was saying, I attended 17 carbon forums around the country, including one in the member for Canning's electorate. The common theme from all of these— Mr Randall interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Canning is warned! Mr CREAN: was that the regions get the significance of moving to a cleaner carbon future. Indeed, local governments and communities have set themselves carbon reduction targets. They have identified through mission statements the need to move to a cleaner energy future and they are embracing programs that encourage this very direction. Those programs in themselves have led to investment, jobs and a better environment. An example of this is Geraldton, Western Australia, which is a city that is committed to moving to carbon neutrality and a city that is looking to renewable energy to power the significant development that is occurring in the resources industry. Investec, a company that is interested in solar energy investment around that region, has made the point recently that, whilst it has undertaken the feasibility study, it would not be economic under current conditions. However, with the announcement of the Prime Minister's package, it now says that it is viable. That is also the case in Whyalla, a place that the Leader of the Opposition visited; he swaggered into OneSteel and said, 'You'll be wiped off the face of the earth.' But what is Whyalla saying? Mr Pyne interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order! The minister has returned to the question. Mr CREAN: I have. The SPEAKER: The minister will return to the question. Mr CREAN: Whyalla took no notice of him— The SPEAKER: The minister will return to the question. Mr CREAN: because over there I visited sites in which they too are looking to investment in solar energy and in rare earths, because it is the rare earths that become the ingredients and components for so much lightweight material and technology—Australian technology that is there with the solar energy. It is the same on the Eyre Peninsula, in the same seat, where they are looking at increasing their wind farm capacity, and it is the same in the upper Spencer Gulf. In Tasmania—and I have great confidence in the ability of the Tasmanian economy—there is a $100 million positive impact of the carbon price. Treasury has said that in renewable energy alone there is $100 billion of investment in renewables in this country for the taking. Take the words of Investec: if it is not viable under current economic conditions, it will only become viable with the passage of this package. The truth is that that investment, those jobs and that cleaner environment are dependent on the package. We as a government are committed to delivering it, and it is only those who sit opposite that will run the fear campaign— The SPEAKER: Order! The minister will return to the— Mr CREAN: and tell any untruth they can to try and stop that development. Mr Pyne interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order! The minister has concluded. Mr Schultz interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order, the member for Hume! If the member for Hume wants the call, he stands. But the member for Gilmore is standing. And the member for Hume does not need to pack his papers; he is staying here, and he is going to be quiet.