Mr TURNBULL (Wentworth—Prime Minister) (15:09): The honourable member for Jagajaga should be very well aware that the government is absolutely committed to ensuring that parents, that mothers and fathers, get all the support they need. Ms MACKLIN: So what are you cutting it for? The SPEAKER: The member for Jagajaga has asked her question and will not interject. Mr TURNBULL: Calibrating the right set of measures to achieve the right outcome is absolutely critical. The honourable member should be aware, given her long experience in this field, that you have to look at the totality of the government's programs. Our government is committed to supporting families and we are doing so generously and compassionately and effectively.