Senator CASH (Western Australia—Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Employment and Minister for Women) (14:19): Let me tell you what creating jobs involves. It involves a plan in the first instance. It involves those on this side of the chamber— Senator Wong: Mr President, I rise on a point of order: direct relevance. This minister is inclined to hyperbole. She was asked a very serious question about misleading the Senate. The government's own modelling is 5,434 jobs in 2035. Why don't you correct the record? The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, the question was more detailed than just that. That was a part of the question and you commenced debating the question. Minister, you are in order and you have the call. Senator CASH: As I was saying, what does it take to create jobs? It takes a plan. It takes— Senator Wong interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. Senator Wong, a point of order? Senator Wong: Direct relevance. The question is about her misleading the Senate. She should go to that question. The PRESIDENT: That is not the only part of the question, Senator Wong. The question contained more elements than that. The minister has 45 seconds in which to answer. Minister? Senator CASH: As I was saying, it takes a plan, and we on this side have a plan for Australians. We understand job creation. We understand that when you are in government you are given opportunities. You are given opportunities to create jobs, going forward for the future. That is why Minister Robb— Senator Wong interjecting— Senator Brandis interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. Point of order, Senator Brandis? Senator Brandis: Point of order, Mr President. Senator Wong just accused Senator Cash of lying to the Senate. That should be withdrawn. The PRESIDENT: I did not have the advantage of hearing what may have been said. Senator Wong, if you believe anything inappropriate was said, I would ask you to withdraw. Senator Wong: I withdraw 'lying' and I say 'mislead', and she should respond to that. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Wong. Minister, you have the call. Senator CASH: Unlike those on that side of the chamber, I do not make excuses for job creation because that is what this government does, and we will continue to do it because we know what is in the best interests of Australians. Australians need jobs, and we will create them.