Senator DUNIAM (Tasmania—Manager of Opposition Business in the Senate) (14:35): In 2023, Minister Mark Butler forecast the tobacco excise would deliver an extra $3.3 billion in revenue over the forward estimates instead of what's now turned into a roughly $25 billion loss as a result of the exploding illegal tobacco trade. Minister, can you tell the Senate exactly how much worse off the bottom line will be as a result of this hands-off approach and the lack of any effective action being taken by your government?