Senator HODGINS-MAY (Victoria) (14:24): Minister, you keep saying your focus is on quality, but the ABC has repeatedly exposed for-profit providers where profit comes before safety and where cost cutting and high staff turnover are putting children at risk. Non-profit centres regularly exceed quality standards because they invest in educators, not shareholders. When will you start listening to educators, parents and the evidence and stop putting the profits of private equity ahead of our children's safety?