Senator FARRELL (South Australia—Minister for Trade and Tourism, Special Minister of State and Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:41): I thank Senator Pocock for his first supplementary question and his interest in this issue. You've quoted some figures there, Senator Pocock, but I'd like to quote some other figures. These relate to the fact that, in 2024, public servants spent more than one million hours processing FOI requests. If only those public servants could have been working on health, on the NDIS or on education, rather than focusing on answering frivolous FOI requests. Senator Pocock, this is a really important reform because this is a transparent government. We are an open and transparent government. What you see is what you get. (Time expired) Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! I'm waiting for order! Senator Shoebridge interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Shoebridge, order! Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Across the chamber! I've called for order. I'm still waiting. So disrespectful towards me. Senator Pocock, second supplementary?