Senator McCARTHY (Northern Territory—Minister for Indigenous Australians) (15:02): We want people to train at home and continue working locally, because you shouldn't have to leave home to build your career. We are bringing university closer to students living in the regions, investing in 20 more regional university hubs. Our fee-free TAFE has already supported over 500,000 people nationally, including over 127,000 in our regions. That's why we will make fee-free TAFE permanent. Just because you're getting it for free doesn't mean you don't value it, unlike what those opposite might think. To attract and retain the workers of our communities, we need to build more housing. Opposition senators interjecting— Senator McCARTHY: You don't care about the regions. You obviously don't want to hear about them. You never want to know about any success in the regions— The PRESIDENT: Minister, please resume your seat. Order! Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order across the chamber! I would like silence for the next eight seconds. Minister McCarthy, please continue. Senator McCARTHY: To attract and retain the workers our communities need, we are building more housing—$32 billion in housing initiatives to help Australians to build, rent and buy. (Time expired) Senator Wong: I ask that further questions be placed on the Notice Paper.