Senator THORPE (Victoria) (14:58): Senator, what do you say to the black women watching right now, particularly those from family violence prevention legal services who are listening, Minister—or senator or whatever you are? The PRESIDENT: Senator Thorpe, you can either address the senator— Senator THORPE: He's not listening. The PRESIDENT: Senator Thorpe— Senator THORPE: I'm not repeating myself and then calling a point of order. The PRESIDENT: Senator Thorpe, you are not in a debate with me. You can address Senator Watt as either Senator Watt or Minister. You asked the question. I've responded. Please continue. Senator THORPE: What do you say to the First Nations women watching right now who are being denied access through the door for justice to leave the violence right now? What do you say to them?