Senator FAWCETT (South Australia) (15:00): Minister, I and the Ukrainian government appreciate the support of both sides of the chamber. But the reality is Ukraine first expressed an interest in using the Taipans—for casualty evacuation—during a meeting that I held with them at the NATO conference in October last year, and I made sure your government was advised of that interest before I even left Copenhagen to return to Australia. Minister, why didn't the Albanese government even bother to pick up the phone to consult the Ukrainians before deciding on a plan to just dig a hole and bury the helicopters? (Time expired)