Senator McKENZIE (Victoria—Leader of the Nationals in the Senate) (14:43): The Motor Trades Association of Australia says that 'there are no internal combustion engines that can hit' the government's 2029 carbon targets. Based on the government's own Green Vehicle Guide, the proposed carbon penalties for popular SUVs are 1,500 bucks per Toyota RAV4, 6,600 bucks per Mazda CX5 and over $7,000 per Hyundai TUCSON by 2027. Minister, can you guarantee that there'll be no reduction in availability of these top-selling cars for Australians? (Time expired)