Senator PATERSON (Victoria) (14:18): Media are reporting that the Prime Minister is attempting to shut down debate on AUKUS at the national conference to avoid embarrassment to the government. If the Prime Minister cannot trust his own party to be unified in support of AUKUS, how can Australians and our partners trust the Prime Minister to reverse defence cuts and deliver on his commitments to AUKUS? Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Before I call the minister, I would ask those on my right particularly to refrain from interjecting and pointing. Senator Green interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Green!