Senator FARRELL (South Australia—Minister for Trade and Tourism, Special Minister of State and Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:51): I thank Senator Faruqi for her first supplementary question. No, I don't accept that proposition, Senator Faruqi. For instance, the Regional First Home Buyer Guarantee was brought forward by three months by this government, and more than 2,000 places have already been taken up, with hundreds of Australian families now in their new homes with Help to Buy, a new program to help Australians get their own home sooner. We're establishing a permanent National Housing Supply and Affordability Council. The interim council has been operating since 1 January this year, and it provides independent expert advice to government but particularly developing a new National Housing and Homelessness Plan. The government has been talking with state and territory housing— (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Faruqi, please, a second supplementary?