Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:51): I didn't see that interview, so I won't— Senator Waters interjecting— Senator WONG: I'm sorry? Senator Waters interjecting— Senator WONG: Okay. Well, that's good to know—genuinely! We do agree on something. The position the government has been very clear about is that we will reduce our emissions by 43 per cent by 2030 and we will aim to get to 82 per cent renewables by 2030. I would also make this point: the market is moving. It is moving domestically and it is moving internationally—and I know those opposite want to howl at the moon over this, but it is. And what that does show is that the reliance in the global energy markets on fossil fuels, over time, to 2050, will reduce. So whatever individual companies might say, that is the reality. (Time expired) Senator Rennick interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Before I call Senator Waters, Senator Rennick, I have called you to order a number of times. This is Senator Waters's question and I would ask you to give her the respect of listening to the answer. Senator Waters, a second supplementary?