Senator WATT (Queensland—Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry and Minister for Emergency Management) (14:29): On the matter that you began with, Senator Thorpe, about the age of criminal responsibility, the Attorney-General, Mr Dreyfus, has made that a standing item for discussion and action at the ministerial council of all attorneys-general around the country. There are some states that are more willing than others to look at this issue and to do something about this issue. I know that the Northern Territory is currently doing something about the issue, but there are other states that aren't moving as quickly. But the fact is that the Attorney-General has got this on the agenda at every meeting of his colleagues, and that demonstrates that that's something that we want to be doing. Senator Thorpe: We want action. Senator WATT: Senator Thorpe, the age of criminal responsibility is a matter for states to determine. Senator Thorpe: And leadership. Senator WATT: We are demonstrating leadership by putting it on the agenda for every ministerial council meeting. That is how Commonwealth governments exercise leadership—by putting it on the agenda to put pressure on the states to start thinking about these issues more. (Time expired)