Senator WATT (Queensland—Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry and Minister for Emergency Management) (14:14): I am aware of this incident, and I'm also aware that a departmental spokesperson from the department has already addressed this point by saying that the link was used as part of an internal desktop review which used a range of online sources to determine an indicative cost as part of the RIS. This included websites such as the AFR. Do you have an issue with that one? It included Payscale. Do you have an issue with that one? It included Talent.com and LinkedIn. Do you have issues with those as well? The departmental spokesperson has gone on to say that it was incorrect to use the link as being the only source referenced in that section of the RIS. The department apologises— Senator Cash interjecting— Senator Canavan interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Minister Watt, would you resume your seat, please. Order, Senator Cash and Senator Canavan, when I'm calling the Senate to order. Minister, please continue. Senator WATT: I didn't know the opposition objected to the AFRand LinkedIn and Talent.com and Payscale and things like that, but apparently they do. The truth here is that the opposition—what they really object to is any change to an industrial relations system that has kept wages low, kept productivity low and impeded economic growth. That's what— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Minister Watt, please resume your seat. Order! Please continue, Minister. Senator WATT: There is nothing that gets the coalition more excited than keeping wages low. Senator Cash: A psychic is giving him information. The PRESIDENT: Minister Watt, please resume your seat. Seriously, Senator Cash. I'd just called the chamber to order, and the very minute the senator gets back on his feet to answer the question you interject, very loudly, once again. I will ask you to listen in quiet. Please continue, Minister Watt. Senator WATT: Thank you. As I say, there is nothing that gets the coalition going more than the prospect of keeping wages low. That's what they did for the 10 years they were in government, and that's what they're determined to do—even though they lost the last election, even when our government got a mandate to get wages moving again. This mob over here are so determined to hold workers back from getting a pay rise that they will continually oppose it. They will come up with scare campaign after scare campaign, anything at all, to keep wages low. And why? Because it was a deliberate feature of their economic policy, and they're determined to pursue that in opposition just as they did it for 10 years in government. Do you know what will actually make our economy stronger? It is higher wages and higher productivity. Do you know how we're going to do that? By delivering these industrial relations reforms that the people of Australia voted for and this mob still haven't woken up to, and they're pursuing the old fights and the old conflict to hold wages low. The PRESIDENT: Senator McGrath, a first supplementary question?