Senator McKENZIE (Victoria—Minister for Emergency Management and National Recovery and Resilience, Minister for Regionalisation, Regional Communications and Regional Education and Leader of The Nationals in the Senate) (14:57): I note in putting their support forward for an aspirational target of net zero by 2050 the Minerals Council a couple of weeks ago made it very, very clear that we can't do that without carbon capture and storage technology being implemented in this country. So we look forward to the Labor Party supporting National Party amendments to the Clean Energy Finance Corporation which will do exactly that and ensure that the dirty deal done by Gillard and Brown to establish the Clean Energy Finance Corporation will actually fund carbon capture and storage— The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong on a point of order? Senator Wong: There certainly are dirty deals being done at the moment, and Senator McKenzie can talk about them. But my point of order— Senator Rennick interjecting— Senator Wong: I'm happy to give leave for Senator Rennick to speak. Do you want to do that? If you stand up and seek leave, Senator Rennick, we will give you leave. The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, please resume your seat. Points of order are not an opportunity to debate matters across the chamber or for interjections from my right. I will give Senator Wong the opportunity to restate her point of order. Senator Wong, have you finished? Senator Wong: Yes. The PRESIDENT: Alright. I am listening carefully to the answer. You've had the chance to bring the minister back to the question. Senator McKENZIE: As I was saying, carbon capture and storage technologies, along with nuclear technologies, are recognised by the International Energy Agency as the two technologies which are actually going to be essential to getting to a low-emissions future. So I look forward to the Labor Party and the Greens supporting 21st-century technologies that will— (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: If the chamber agrees, we can do the final supplementary question. There is no objection. Senator Watt, a second supplementary question?