Senator RICE (Victoria—Deputy Australian Greens Whip) (14:18): My question is for the Minister for Families and Social Services. This week is Anti-Poverty Week. Yesterday former New South Wales Liberal minister Pru Goward was condemned by anti-poverty organisations and advocates as being 'disturbing', 'abusive' and 'inaccurate' for saying out loud how Liberals like her view people trapped in poverty as huge cost centres, as an underclass of Australians who are neglectful parents and almost entirely lacking in discipline. Minister, as another Liberal minister, will you join me in condemning her appalling statement and abuse of some of the most vulnerable people in our community? Honourable senators: Shame! The PRESIDENT: Just before I call the minister, interjections are always disorderly, particularly during the asking of questions. If you want everyone in the chamber, particularly me, to hear the question, then I do need some silence.