Senator McKENZIE (Victoria—Minister for Emergency Management and National Recovery and Resilience, Minister for Regionalisation, Regional Communications and Regional Education and Leader of The Nationals in the Senate) (14:37): Thank you very much for giving me the chance to clarify a comment I made in an opinion piece last week. When we talk about the sale of Telstra, which both the Labor Party and the Liberal Party supported, who dealt with the poor telecommunications? Who couldn't call an ambo? Who couldn't homeschool their kids? It was no-one in Woolloomooloo, and it was no-one in any of your electorates. It was our electorates. On the Murray-Darling Basin plan—the water policy in this country—it was our seats that paid the price. Out of sight, out of mind. Senator O ' Neill interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator O'Neill! Senator McKENZIE: I'm sorry, you don't like to hear it, but it's true. It is absolutely the same on this issue. We need to be assured, on behalf of the people who sent us here, of the impact on them, and that's all we're doing.