Senator McKENZIE (Victoria—Minister for Emergency Management and National Recovery and Resilience, Minister for Regionalisation, Regional Communications and Regional Education and Leader of The Nationals in the Senate) (14:18): I'm happy to table my opinion pieces of recent times on this issue on why I think we need to adopt a cautious approach. We need to make sure we're doing the right thing by our people. If we're not standing up for those with the lowest median income in the country, who are in National Party seats, then we aren't doing our jobs. If it is such a good idea, what happened under Rudd and Gillard? What happened when you had the chance to do the miracle dream team deal between the Greens and Labor? You walked away from it. You never really assessed what happened to the regions. If I asked you today, 'What would be the impact of Anthony Albanese's climate change policy on rural and regional Australia?' what would you say? You'd have no idea because you have no plan. The PRESIDENT: I will just remind the chamber that we should address those from the other place by their correct titles, even if they are former representatives.