Senator PAYNE (New South Wales—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Minister for Women) (14:44): I think it is important for Senator Lambie and for those opposite, it would seem from the cacophony opposite, to really appreciate the importance we place on growing our relationship in priority areas, continuing Australia's and Singapore's work together in responding to, particularly, the health and economic challenges of the COVID-19 pandemic. Mr Hodgman's extensive experience in government, trade and tourism, which are key aspects— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Lambie, on a point of order? Senator Lambie: Mr President, I'm simply asking: what professional personal relationship did Mr Hodgman have with Singapore that could possibly qualify him? I just want to know what professional personal relationships he has to qualify him for that. The PRESIDENT: Senator Lambie, I think, with respect, Senator Payne is being directly relevant. She is answering the question, if not necessarily in the form requested. She is being directly relevant. Senator Payne. Senator PAYNE: Thank you. I have spoken to Mr Hodgman's particular expertise as an outstanding leader of government in Australia—an outstanding leader of government who moved Tasmania into a place on not just the Australian stage but the world stage in trade and tourism terms— Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Payne: which those opposite may wish to decry and which Senator Lambie may not accept, but which this government sees as— (Time expired)