Senator PAYNE (New South Wales—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Minister for Women) (14:15): I thank Senator Rice for her question. I've seen the read out of the President-elect's call with Prime Minister Morrison. I think it is important to reinforce—and I noticed Senator Rice did not refer to this—both leaders, President-elect Biden and the Prime Minister, made clear our strong commitment to strengthening our alliance even further as we head towards the 70th anniversary of ANZUS next year. We agreed there was no more critical a time for our alliance as we face the global pandemic and we face a much more uncertain strategic environment. The PRESIDENT: Senator Rice, on a point of order? Senator Rice: Yes, a point of order. I ask you to draw the minister's attention to the topic of my question, which was specifically about how climate change was addressed in the conversation with President-elect Biden. The PRESIDENT: On the point of order, it referenced the phone call as well. So I think, for part of the answer, the minister is entitled to address the phone call as well. I'm sure the minister is aware of the second part of the question. Senator PAYNE: I think I had just said that the leaders discussed their shared values, our many shared interests, particularly in the Indo-Pacific. They also discussed the need for like-minded liberal democracies to do more together, which I'm sure would be endorsed by Senator Rice and those in her party, whether it is in the G7-plus, the Quad or the G20 through the leadership of multilateral institutions. Prime Minister Morrison has also indicated that their discussion included addressing global environmental challenges, including reducing greenhouse gas emissions and plastics pollution in the oceans. The Prime Minister welcomed President-elect Biden's commitment that the United States would rejoin the Paris Agreement, which, as I would note, Australia has been a continuing and committed member of. They also discussed the alignment between the President-elect's climate change platform and Australia's focus on practical measures to reduce emissions through investment in clean technology and on exploring opportunities for partnerships on clean technology, investment and deployment. The PRESIDENT: Senator Rice, a supplementary question?