Senator REYNOLDS (Western Australia—Minister for Defence) (14:35): As Senator Cormann has pointed out, I am the Minister for Defence, and I answered the Defence aspect of that question— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Wong, on a point of order. Senator Wong: Direct relevance. We are asking the Minister for Defence about the application of Defence policy—that is, the written authorisation. The PRESIDENT: Senator Cormann, on the point of order. Senator Cormann: On the point of order: the minister was being directly relevant to her portfolio responsibilities. She made very clear what the matters relevant to Defence were. The minister does not represent the Liberal Party in this chamber; she represents the Defence portfolio. The PRESIDENT: On the point of order, two matters. Firstly, the minister had been speaking for eight seconds. I find it hard to believe that, unless there is an egregious breach, I can call the minister to a point of direct relevance after eight seconds. I need to allow the minister to complete a sentence or two. With respect, to my memory, in the statement immediately prior to the point of order being raised, the minister made an observation referencing a comment earlier by the Leader of the Government in the Senate. I believe that making that observation can still be directly relevant. The point of order goes to the merits of an answer, which is not in the capacity of the chair, nor is it the capacity of the chair to direct the minister how to answer a question as long as they're directly relevant. I'll call the minister to continue, noting she has 52 seconds remaining. Senator REYNOLDS: Just to be extremely clear, I will say it again: I am the Minister for Defence and I'm answering the Defence aspects of this. Yes, there is a policy on the website. Defence was asked not to provide any imagery or footage of the material. There is a significant amount of footage in the public domain which is regularly accessed by many. I will also point out that the question yesterday related to the social media of the Prime Minister—the question would be best directed to the Prime Minister's representative. You're talking about the Liberal Party, and I have answered the question fully in relation to— Senator Watt: Point of order: the question is about the application of a policy of the Department of Defence. The only person who can answer that question is the Minister for Defence. She should be able to answer this. The PRESIDENT: Senator Watt, you make an observation, but it is not in the capacity of the chair to direct the minister how to answer a question as long as the minister is being directly relevant, and I believe she was being directly relevant. Even if some people don't like the answer, there are opportunities to debate that, but it is not for me to judge. Senator Reynolds, have you concluded your answer? Senator REYNOLDS: I can repeat the answer as Minister for Defence again, but I think I covered it adequately the last three or four times. The PRESIDENT: Senator Kitching, a final supplementary question?