Senator CORMANN (Western Australia—Minister for Finance and the Public Service, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:48): The Prime Minister agrees that we need to do everything to bring down electricity prices and ensure Australians can benefit from reliable energy supplies, and that is precisely what the government is doing. I'm quite happy to take you back through the four key parts of our plan: a price safety net, stopping price gouging, backing investment in reliable power, supporting 24/7 reliable power. There are, of course, many components to it, and we invite the Labor Party to join the coalition in working hard to bring electricity prices down. The first thing that the Labor Party could do, here and now, is rule out the reintroduction of a carbon tax. The other day, earlier this week, we had the shadow Attorney-General being asked whether he could rule out a carbon tax, and what did he say? He said something. He said, 'I'm not going to play the rule in, rule out game.' At least— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Cormann. Senator Marshall, on a point of order? Senator Marshall: On direct relevance. I clearly simply asked the minister whether the Prime Minister agreed with the comments of Innes Willox? I can repeat those comments again if you'd like, but that is all I asked. The PRESIDENT: You've reminded the minister of the question. I note he has a minute and one second remaining to answer. Senator Cormann. Senator CORMANN: Thank you very much, Mr President. I think that I very directly addressed what the Prime Minister agreed with, and that is our plan to bring electricity prices down and to ensure that Australians can benefit from reliable energy supplies. Of course, I understand why a Labor senator would jump up when I start talking about Labor's plans for a carbon tax, though I was surprised that Senator Marshall was so quick in jumping up to defend the shadow Attorney-General. I didn't know that they were part of the same dysfunctional Labor family in Victoria. We hear a lot from the Labor Party— Senator Kim Carr: You want to talk about dysfunction, do you? Senator CORMANN: Here we have the senator for Pyongyang! There's still a lot of division going on inside the Labor Party in Victoria. Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my left. Senator CORMANN: I note that Senator Marshall stood up— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Cormann. The time for the answer has expired. Senator Cormann! It might help if you would look occasionally at the chair. Then I might not have to be so loud. Senator Marshall, a supplementary question.