Senator CASH (Western Australia—Minister for Small and Family Business, Skills and Vocational Education) (14:19): I thank Senator McKim for the question but, of course, as always, I note the irony in the fact he has to ask this question because it is, of course, the policies of the Australian Greens when they joined with the former Labor government when they were in government that resulted in—well, isn't that interesting? Senator McKim sits there and yawns, colleagues, because he doesn't understand the reality of the policies that they have agreed with—policies that saw in excess of 50,000 people come to this country illegally. Senator McKim, the fundamental difference between those of us on the Liberal-Nationals side of politics and those on the left-wing side of politics is that we don't even want to see children go into detention in the first place, which means that we have tough border protection policies, because, Senator McKim, under the former Howard government— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Cash, please resume your seat. Senator McKim on a point of order. Senator McKim: On the blindingly obvious point of order of direct relevance, the minister's more than halfway through the period of time allotted for her answer. She's not within a bull's roar of the question that I asked. I ask that you remind the minister of the question. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator McKim. You have done so; I will do so as well. It was a specific question. I ask the minister, who has 59 seconds remaining, to answer. I call the minister. Senator CASH: Senator McKim, through absolutely no assistance from you at all, those of us on this side of the chamber, the Morrison government, the Liberal-Nationals government, have actually done everything that we can to ensure that there are no children in detention. Significant headway has been made by our government to remove children from detention. You would be aware— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Cash, please resume your seat. Senator McKim on a point of order. Senator McKim: Yes, President. I thank you for previously reminding the minister of the question. If the minister doesn't know, she should take the question on notice and commit to coming back to the Senate with the answer. I ask that you request her to do that if in fact she doesn't have the information before her. The PRESIDENT: As you know, Senator McKim, I am unable to instruct the minister on how to answer the question as long as they are being directly relevant, which I believe the minister is at the moment. Senator CASH: As I was saying, it is under this government that significant headway has been made in removing children from detention. Senator McKim, at the height of the former government's failed policies, you and the Australian Greens were responsible for in excess of 8,000 children in detention. It is because of the actions of those of us on this side of the chamber that children were actually removed from detention. The PRESIDENT: Senator McKim, a supplementary question.