Senator CORMANN (Western Australia—Minister for Finance and the Public Service, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:16): I can see that Senator Pratt is very interested in coming on board with our plan to bring down electricity prices, so I'm very hopeful that she will persuade the Labor Party to drop its plans for a carbon tax. I remember Senator Pratt when she was running in the 2013 campaign. By then we had Prime Minister Rudd. She was campaigning in Western Australia to— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Cormann, please resume your seat. Senator Wong, on a point of order. Senator Wong: The point of order is direct relevance. I understand he's reluctant to talk about government policy, but that is what the question is about: which of these proposals reflects the government's refined policy approach—EIS, CET or the NEG? It's a point of order on direct relevance. The PRESIDENT: You've reminded the minister of the question. He has 36 seconds remaining. Senator CORMANN: I know why Senator Wong doesn't want me to answer this, but Senator Pratt went to the 2013 election asserting that Labor had already abolished the carbon tax, and of course everybody knows that's not true. The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong on a point of order. Senator Wong: Direct relevance. It's a question about government policy. Surely the Leader of the Government in the Senate can actually respond on government policy. The PRESIDENT: I remind the minister of the question. He has 26 seconds remaining to answer. Senator CORMANN: Our policies lower electricity prices, and I know that in 2013 Senator Pratt also campaigned for lower electricity prices, because she said that they had abolished the carbon tax. I call on Senator Pratt to join us in making a commitment that there will be no carbon tax under a government that she is part of. The PRESIDENT: Senator Pratt, a final supplementary question.