Senator SCULLION (Northern Territory—Minister for Indigenous Affairs and Leader of The Nationals in the Senate) (14:03): On a recent Monday, I understand that Minister Wyatt indicated during an interview that, at that stage, he really would like to see similar sorts of money that we might spend on a royal commission invested in the sector. I'm not sure if it was the same Monday but it was around the same time that Bill Shorten said, 'I'm not sure if we want a royal commission.' I'm not sure if this is very useful but, as I've indicated, in that period of time, some significant evidence— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Scullion! Senator O'Neill, on a point of order. Senator O'Neill: On relevance. I do indicate, again, that it has been 24 hours since this question was first asked. I know there are many Mondays in a year but we'd like some actual details. The minister had 24 hours to identify the dates. The PRESIDENT: Senator O'Neill, I am assuming your point of order is about direct relevance. I was listening carefully to the minister. He has 15 seconds remaining. I believe he was turning to the point you raised just then as he was speaking. Senator SCULLION: Thank you for the clarification on the point of order, Mr President. We are always going to be talking less about partisan politics and more about the fixing of aged care. The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Scullion! Please resume your seat. Senator Wong, on a point of order. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Wong is on her feet. On the point of order, Senator Wong. Senator Wong: The point of order is on direct relevance. We asked a question yesterday—and the minister has had 24 hours to go away and check—which was: when did the minister he represents first become aware of discussions in the government for a royal commission? It is a reasonable question, given that the minister he represents said something contrary to government policy. I ask you to remind the minister of the question, and I ask the minister to do the courtesy to the chamber of answering the question. The PRESIDENT: On the point of order, I remind the minister of the question and that he has five seconds remaining to answer. Senator SCULLION: I've indicated that it was the Monday before the Friday in the same week. Sorry I haven't got the Friday— (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator O'Neill, a final supplementary question. Senator Scullion interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Scullion, you will have an opportunity in a moment. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: We will waste time here as long as there are interjections. Senator O'Neill, a final supplementary question.