Senator CASH (Western Australia—Minister for Jobs and Innovation) (14:41): Thank you for the question, Senator Carr. This question is actually more appropriately given to the Minister representing the Minister for the Environment. Senator Kim Carr: No; point of order. This is a question directed to the minister responsible for those research agencies: Senator Cash. CSIRO. The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, I was about to rule, but I'll take your contribution. Senator Wong: Perhaps the minister might not be aware there is an organisation called the CSIRO! Senator Cormann interjecting— Senator Wong: We are asking about consultation with the CSIRO. I wouldn't be calling anybody juvenile today, Senator Cormann. The PRESIDENT: Let us stick to the points of order. I cannot instruct a minister how to answer a question. I can only require them to be directly relevant. Senator Cash, I will invite you to make any other contribution you wish. That can include taking it on notice or providing more information. Senator Carr? Senator Kim Carr: Then I ask: if the minister can't even answer what's in her own portfolio— The PRESIDENT: Senator Carr, please. You'll have a supplementary opportunity. I've taken your point of order. I've invited the minister to make any further contribution. I cannot instruct her how to answer a question. Or she can take it on notice if she wishes. Senator Wong: Yes, I understand that. I was actually not clear whether the minister was just looking at the brief and waiting and then going to rise or whether she was declining to answer the primary. The PRESIDENT: I invited the minister to make a further contribution. Minister, do you have a further contribution to add? Senator CASH: Yes. In relation to the primary question: I will take that on notice and respond to you, Senator Carr. But, in relation to the Great Barrier Reef, this is an economic asset for Australia, as we know, Senator Carr. It contributes $6.4 billion to the Australian economy. In relation to jobs, 64,000 Australians are actually reliant upon the Great Barrier Reef for their jobs. A key part of the investment that we are making is an innovative partnership with the Great Barrier Reef Foundation, and it is $443.3 million. It is a grant that is delivered through the government's Reef Trust. The foundation will deliver funds, Senator Carr— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Cash. Senator Carr on a point of order? Senator Kim Carr: The point of order is one of relevance. I wasn't asking the minister about the value of the Great Barrier Reef; I was asking about the consultation with regard to two portfolio agencies under her direct ministerial control. The PRESIDENT: On your point of order: the minister has taken part of it on notice. The minister is addressing the part of your question which referred to a grant by the government. I consider the minister to be directly relevant to that part of your question. Senator CASH: As I was saying, the foundation will deliver funds to range of partners experienced in delivering reef protection activities, as well as driving new capacity and partnerships for the reef. We have a productive relationship with the foundation. They have demonstrated their ability to deliver benefits for the reef and manage government funding appropriately through previous reef projects. The PRESIDENT: Senator Carr, a supplementary question.