Senator FIERRAVANTI-WELLS (New South Wales—Minister for International Development and the Pacific) (14:19): That's a bit rich coming from you over there who have just committed to ripping $60 billion out of the pockets of self-funded retirees and pensioners—people who have worked very, very hard all their lives. And, of course, you're going to rip it out from the pensioners but you're going to exempt your union mates. Scoop: Shorten's tax secret. Let me read it to you: CFMEU slush funds and Labor-aligned campaign groups have been given secret exemption from Bill Shorten's plan to axe investment income cash refunds. The Daily Telegraph can reveal several bodies set up by the— militant— CFMEU and other bodies that support Labor would be able to continue receiving— Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my left! Senator Fierravanti-Wells, please resume your seat. Senator Hinch. Senator Hinch: A point of order: it's impossible to hear anything back here. The PRESIDENT: I asked for some semblance of order earlier. We've now had a complaint from a colleague who can't hear what's going on. Could senators please keep that in mind. While interjections can be witty, they can get too noisy. Senator Wong, a point of order? Senator Wong: On direct relevance, Mr President. I wonder if the minister can explain how Catholic Social Services Australia, Caritas Australia and The Salvation Army are Labor slush funds. The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, you've been here longer than I, and you know very well that that is not a point of order. Senator FIERRAVANTI-WELLS: It said: The Daily Telegraph can reveal several bodies set up by the CFMEU and other bodies that support Labor would be able to continue receiving tax refunds for dividends, while 230,000 pensioners across the country have— (Time expired) Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my left! A colleague at the rear of the chamber has said he can't hear what's going on. Can you please show others the courtesy to let them hear proceedings.