Senator FIERRAVANTI-WELLS (New South Wales—Minister for International Development and the Pacific) (14:57): Thank you, Senator Bilyk, I have continued to receive emails in relation to concerns about the Labor Party if you do get into government. As I was saying, in the end you are now, basically, raiding the savings of self-funded retirees and pensioners. An incident having occurred in the gallery— The PRESIDENT: Order in the galleries! Senator FIERRAVANTI-WELLS: Thank you. Basically, as I was saying, it was six years of fiscal vandalism. Mr Shorten, you're having a go in relation to pensioners, but what you are doing is ripping thousands of dollars out of the pockets of pensioners and self-funded retirees—people who have worked all of their lives and saved their money, and now you are coming along and you are going to rip them off. Shame on you!