Senator PAYNE (New South Wales—Minister for Defence) (14:20): In my 20 years in this chamber, I have heard some extraordinarily unedifying things—many of them from the Australian Greens. But that reflection on the service of a senior Australian Army officer takes your lows to depths that I did not think you could plumb. You consistently disappoint the Australian people and you do it with the most extraordinary lack of self-awareness or any idea of what it takes to lead for your nation in a uniform. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister's concluded her answer. Senator O'Sullivan, on a point of order? Senator O'Sullivan: Mr President—she's just repeated it—one of the Greens yelled out accusing the senator of being a white supremacist. An honourable senator: It was Sarah Hanson-Young! Senator O'Sullivan: It was Sarah Hanson-Young. She's done it twice. It's a despicable thing to say about a fellow senator. She should withdraw it. The PRESIDENT: I did not hear from this end of the chamber. If a comment of that nature was made reflecting on an individual senator, it should be withdrawn. Senator Hanson-Young. Senator Hanson-Young: Mr President, I said that the senator was supporting white supremacists. That is what he did when he shared that Facebook post— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Hanson-Young: That is what he's being asked to apologise for. That is what he should be ashamed of. The PRESIDENT: Resume your seat, Senator Hanson-Young. You were given the opportunity to clarify, and you did. The senator has denied making the statement. Senator Bernardi. Senator Bernardi: Mr President, I concur with what Senator O'Sullivan said. Senator Hanson-Young has completely misrepresented what she said. What she said was entirely disgraceful. She accused another senator of being a white supremacist. The PRESIDENT: Senator Bernardi, not having heard the comment and the senator having denied it, I am required to take senators' statements about their own comments at face value. There are other forums where these matters can be debated. Senator Hinch. Senator Hinch: Point of order, Mr President: if Senator Hanson-Young is making some sort of apology, I think Senator Steele-John, who repeated the exact same expression to another senator, should do the same. The PRESIDENT: I am not in a position to order a withdrawal of comments I did not hear. I have asked senators if they made unparliamentary comments to utilise the chamber to withdraw them. On the basis that the senator has denied making a comment, senators are free to stand and withdraw a comment. There are other places for this to be pursued in the chamber. I will call on Senator Di Natale for his final supplementary question.