Senator LINES (Western Australia) (14:13): Mr President, I ask a further supplementary question. Can the minister confirm that Mr Turnbull once sought support for a Labor Senate seat, and does this not show that former Liberal Premier of Victoria, Mr Jeff Kennett, is right when he says that Mr Turnbull 'is an individual who always puts self-interest first'? The PRESIDENT: I indicate to the minister that that question has a very tenuous link to the primary question. I will allow the minister to answer any part of the question that he wishes.